Joconn wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 3:31pm:


You trust yourself, only, Joconn. Trust in others must be temporary and treated with some degree of scepticism, unfortunately. Everything I was taught growing up (with the exception of one 6th grade teacher who was drummed out of the system for teaching us critical thinking about Civil War reconstruction) was wrong, but I believe my teachers thought they were right. So in that regard they weren't lying I suppose.

Your analogy is interesting. If we are a mere experiment and therefore unimportant, why not push it to the limit. Consequences won't matter ... it's only an experiment. That was actually part of my thinking when I corrected my status 2 years ago. That and my personal drive to make things right.

Take care,

Joconn you are very correct, "fat people will not revolt".  Are we fat or are we slaves to a master that makes us believe we have it better.  We were all born into this slavery.  Until the slave believes the master will not feed him or cloth him or house him we will die slaves. 

Our nation has become a nation of those who believe they are "entitled".

Cheers.
III

Larry wrote on Aug 12th, 2009 at 10:20pm:

Hello to all, I voted all the above an I know from an experience in trying to educate folks over  40+ yrs and most have their heads in the sand and are waiting/hoping for someone else to pull there asses up outa of it the sand that is...most WON'T take the responsibility to learn any of the truth or as others have stated jump on the first band wagon that happens,and are stuck on stupid! I've come to a place that if/when I speak with an individual I can tell in less than 5 mins. if I'll be able to get thru to them. If not I give them somthing that will get them at the least started,but in my experience most will not go after it as they're to brainwashed to except the truth. Ex: I know many in the professoriate they are all very smart,but all are absoulutley brain dead when it comes to the government and do not want to hear anything I've got to say no matter at what angle I've tried to show them...minus one physics prof/retired. Tells me why do you think I have all my investments overseas a laugh that we used to have now deceased,but I'm working on his son now who works for SAM in washington an mit grad and is listening I think I gave him my edition of the Red Amendment now I got come up with some $ to buy a new one chuckle I hope when he's done he'll give it to his boss to read... Blessings 

I choose all of the above because it seemed logical.
You could put a few more reasons up there as well, but they probably would fall under "happy with themselves".  Some people like their benefits. Some people don't mind paying taxes because they think  sometimes they "get something back".

One reason I didn't see is...  because they look to the government to rule them instead of God.
Some people (even as adults) need babysitting and they forget who their Father is.

I wasn't very religious until I got into this.
I did pray for honesty, freedom, peace of mind... and was led to here. 
Maybe you believe in God or not, but I don't feel I was led to this point on accident.
When you place your faith in man (sheep following the government), you are bound to eventually get slaughtered.
I don't want to live that way...  either as a sheep or one to be slaughtered.
And if I do so get slaughtered, I prefer it to be as a free man.

It is difficult to unplug people from the Matrix. I find a good way in doing so is by laying down some cheese. Then another little piece... and just watch the mouse go through the tunnel.  If you gave the mouse the whole chuck of cheese at once it won't know what to do with it or how to handle it. It may just die right there out of shock. There are exceptions, but most people resemble the mouse.

When I tell people what I am about to do some are silent and some are full of questions.
Most of it relates to how am I going to do this or that? Mainly, how am I going to take care of myself?
Well, that is exactly what I will have to do... take care of myself for indepedence means no sucking on government thumbs.

I voted they are afraid of repurcussions but the option I was looking for is: "they have not been taught it is their duty to care."

Somehow we (those on this forum and others) escaped collective, non-aggressive, non-questioning indoctrination in our yourger years. I'm sure if we thought about it long enough we could find a common element or two that make us non-communists.

   I think you could find people in all of those catagories and then some. Most people are not open minded enough to even entertain the idea that the government is not looking out for their best interests. Many are completely unwilling to acknowledge the issue even if they new it to be true, because they would have to leave their comfort zone. and many are not honest enough with themselves to realize they are in total denial, (they probably think it's a river in Egypt). 


          "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance----- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
                                                                                                              Herbert Spencer

All of the above, and then some. Excellent Herbert Spencer quote, fedup. I certainly find that to be true.

A lot of good people have been fighting to change the direction of the US government away from Socialism for well over 50 years, and things just seem to get worse. I think a lot of people have given up hope and have decided that human nature is just too corrupt or something.

Tom Hall wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 1:52pm:


It will only get worse due to the fact people love a free ride... That is one reason why state nationals get out.

Disturbing dependence. Enough said.

I voted for "fear of repercussion" but, I feel it is also a "you can't fight City Hall" mentality. Through the years, when talking to many different people of all ages about governmental ills, more people than not, have said the "you can't fight City Hall"  I think they say that out of "fear of repercussions" from whatever level of government we may have been talking about. It is scary to stand up against any bully, whether it be a governmental bully, school bully, at work bully, or any kind of bully in any kind of setting.  I think once people realize that they have had a choice all along and still do, that this is peacefully and lawfully, their right to do so, and how this choice was never openly shown/presented to them, that this, I feel, will make the difference now, in helping people decide to become involved with turning this great Union of many States around, and putting her back on the track she should've been to begin with, before these imposters of this present (de facto) government hijacked/stole our original (de jure) form of government.

The dog doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds him, especially when the leash is around his neck.

I voted all of the above

I am trying to get involved, after years of disinterest, but I find getting access to this community ridiculously impossible.  I get registered, and approved, but cant click the link to post an introduction.  When I say I dont have access, I am told to go post an introduction in the new members section so I can get more access (yes, the area I cant get access to). hum.....

Do you really want more members? I mean really?  I signed up for the news letter and to receive more information on the other sites here as well, and nothing.

+2

Kavi wrote on Aug 5th, 2010 at 10:56am:


The whole purpose of the Coalition centers on the book, The Red Amendment. There is a lot of information on all the sites and much of it is sprinkled around for a reason: Freedom is not free, and there is no quick fix. So, due dilligence is the name of the game. We weed out the people that are boat anchors this way. As far as access to the areas of PAC Groups, aquiring/reading The Red Amendment gains access to this area.