Now this Kennedy/Turner thing is making more sense...

GuardiansOfTheFreeRepublics.com or Guardians Of The Free Republics

One Clive Boustred is behind all this (see the Whois below).

Mr. Boustred is an "Ego Maniac" from Africa that has had trouble with "American" divorce issues with the state. He reportedly had taken thousands of dollars from people on the failed CopperCard ruse, which takers got nothing for. I was asked to work with "that project" and rejected the offer as they are recruiting "fence walkers".

Boustred does not know the law, hence he is TROUBLE! Now he is off to this "project". My gut feeling is he has contacted the two most prominent movement blathering mouthpieces (Sam "The Scam" Kennedy & Tim "Turn the Facts" Turner) to push his latest useless endeavor : GuardiansOfTheFreeRepublics.com.

Great!... Three blind people corralling the blind who use fear and patriot mythologies to snag them.

Is it Clive or really Thomas Jefferson?

http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/images/jivin_clive.gif

From his libertyforlife.com site :

"Why is Clive a mirror image of Thomas Jefferson not only physically but even more so from a political and philosophical perspective? Is Clive Thomas Jefferson reincarnate? Is reincarnation reasonable? Why do Christians accept the reincarnation of Christ but shy at the reincarnation of others? Surely if God could have Jesus born a baby once, doing it a second, third or fourth time is obviously feasible. Why do Christians recognize angels but not aliens? Is the Origin of Species Philosophy viable scientifically?"

Oh my God... You have got to be joking!

People are actually blindly following this guy who appears to want to be a martyr.

More to come... 

Addendum : Just heard from a source working with Boustred that he had no interest in people learning the law. This stands to reason as him posing as an "Elder". Maybe he wants people to be subservient to him so they can funnel him money when they need help. This really is "CopperCards on steroids".

________________

From Whois Information

Registrant:
CopperCards E.A.
210 Sun Crest Dr.
Soquel, CA 95073
US

Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: GuardiansOfTheFreeRepublics.com
Created on: 05-FEB-10
Expires on: 05-FEB-11
Last Updated on: 06-FEB-10

Administrative, Technical Contact:
Elders, Guardian clive@coppercards.com
CopperCards E.A.
210 Sun Crest Dr.
Soquel, CA 95073
US
408-889-4351

Domain servers in listed order:
NS685.HOSTGATOR.COM
NS686.HOSTGATOR.COM

Registry Status: ok

Copper Cards King, Clive, and some of his video material.

From the CopperCards site: PRODUCTS • SERVICES • OPPORTUNITIES... Sounds like a profit deal, no? [smiley=hmmm.gif]

Listen to the Yada, Yada, Yada, from this guy on the "failed" CopperCards project.
As he does/has not studied law, he is spewing the typical patriot nonsense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF-vHR2IanA

This is very entertaining... Post if you get a chuckle out of it.
Maybe he just get an acting career if the latest "patriot" venture fails  [smiley=uhuh.gif]

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=37010494

Hard to believe that Sheriff Mack is involved with this guy.  [smiley=noway.gif]
(Not mentioned on Macks' website, anyway. Wonder what this is all about?)

At the end of the first video it states that Copper Cards will launch on Independence Day 2008 in YOUR County. I've yet to see it. They must have had more problems getting this thing off the ground than NASA had with the Space Shuttle.

Chief wrote on Feb 11th, 2010 at 5:45pm:

At the end of the first video it states that Copper Cards will launch on Independence Day 2008 in YOUR County. I've yet to see it. They must have had more problems getting this thing off the ground than NASA had with the Space Shuttle.

Well, I think that State Nationals could be put in that same bucket. The BIG difference is, Jivin' Clive is getting people through a back door using front-men, Kennedy and Turner. The REAL problem is, people will want their cake and eat it too, and unfortunately fall for the shyster types. I see this thing taking down alot of people.

All I can say is, we will still be here when this instant "venture" fails. We stand on researched knowledge and truth, and most important : Faith, Hope, and Charity.... Not placing blame on someone else and sell-inflicted anger.

I can't watch the video, dude's voice is too irritating, but recal that Field McConnell and David Hawkins, (hawkscafe.com) are 911 forensic scientists who used to be on internet radio a lot, and recall their promoting CopperCards. McConnell is an accomplished physicist and descendant of Ben Franklin and Hawkins sounded legit to me. Anyway, can't quite make the connection but suspect it's a money making scheme.

Here is a major reason why it's to your detriment to follow Patriot egoists:

Watch the image morph to a dwarf! ---> http://libertyforlife.com/images/j2c-sss.gif ...

It matters not the website that displays that sacrilege. What matters is that we invest our time being educated through PAC and recommend our acquaintance to it, keeping others and ourselves away from the likes of the sort of dangerous presumption displayed in the link.

Those who attempt to position themselves as saviors and heroes are the blind leaders of the blind.

VAsolvo wrote on Feb 15th, 2010 at 12:27pm:

I can't watch the video, dude's voice is too irritating, but recal that Field McConnell and David Hawkins, (hawkscafe.com) are 911 forensic scientists who used to be on internet radio a lot, and recall their promoting CopperCards. McConnell is an accomplished physicist and descendant of Ben Franklin and Hawkins sounded legit to me. Anyway, can't quite make the connection but suspect it's a money making scheme.

Irritating voice? Clive? Are you sure it is just not the capital sized ego thing that bothers you?
And, I think you are referring to one August Franklin Dunning. He is part of the Copper Cards ASSOCIATION... Something that is controlled by the law system. August may know Physics, but hooked-up with someone that has not a clue about law. No telling for good judgment sometimes.

Speaking of good judgment, see the morph pic of Clive. He thinks he is Thomas Jefferson, reincarnate  [smiley=looney.gif]

Not only Sheriff Mack, but it appears that Michael Badnarik is involved with Jivin' Clive too :

• http://74.54.128.50/~clive/coppercards/team/Michael_Badnarik.htm
  

Michael, at one time, was suppose to work with PAC but was not willing to do what is takes by going through the process. He just wanted the State Nationals' ID. The cake and eat it too, syndrome.

Sorry, Michael... It does not work that way. US citizens to the back of the bus. Do not  Pass GO, do not collect $200.

I must say, this is getting more dismal as things further develop.

*****

For more that is sad, see this spiel from the CopperCards family law section :

CopperCards Family Law (http://74.54.128.50/~clive/coppercards/coppercards/member_cards/family/index.htm)

• "...By the way. The Courts are claiming that Family Court is a court of equity and that there is no right to a trial by jury.  The Federal Judiciary Act (1789) SEC. 16 however states: "And be it further enacted, That suits in equity shall not be sustained in either of the courts of the United States, in any case where plain, adequate and complete remedy may be had at law."  What this means is that every divorce case tried in these courts can be completely dismissed and tried again. What a mess these criminals in government have created."

Hey, Clive! IT IS THE 14TH AMENDMENT, STUPID!

And wait a minute, Clive... No CopperCard for this?

• "Clive needs a lawyer who can get rid of corrupt judges - please contact clive@libertyforlife.com if you are a lawyer who can help collect damages and recover Clive's children and home."
  (http://libertyforlife.com/abuse/irwin_joseph.htm)

And it gets worse :

• "If the average U.S. citizen knew what was going on in banking and the government today, there would be a revolution within moments of that realization." - Clive Boustred Founder, CopperCards, Liberty For Life

Great, a rephrased statement from Henry Ford! I am sure there will be more to come.

This is a guy who is a Guardian Elder?  [smiley=what.gif]

It seems to me he's just another US Citizen plant, fishing for unruly subjects!

The famous Sheriff Mack 2nd Amendment case was a joke and to me a non-sequitur, "How do you preserve the right to keep and bear arms?"  "Sheriff Mack".  What?  His case only prevented the Feds from forcing the local law enforcement agencies, the county sheriff, from performing the background checks of potential gun purchasers, and put the responsibility on the Federal Fire Arms licensee, the gun dealer, which is proper.  He who receives the benefit should also bear the disadvantage.  The sheriff had not contracted with the Feds to sell firearms, so the sheriff was not under any contractual obligation to perform the background checks, but all these patriot morons pushing the "we can have our cake and eat it too" use the Sheriff Mack case as proof that they still have 2nd Amendment rights, which is another non-sequitur, "Where do your rights come from?" "The government and the constitution."  Again totally absurd.

wrote on Feb 16th, 2010 at 11:40pm:

It seems to me he's just another US Citizen plant, fishing for unruly subjects!

Not only that, there is no foundational thesis that supports what "he" is attempting to achieve.
Great! We have so-called "de jure" grand juries because Clive says so? The original Judicary Act? Yes? The point?
What relevance does this hold? Again, where is the foundational thesis?

What now, Clive?

Also, see the article on Psychopaths... It may shead some light

• http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?num=1269710737

Federal Farmer wrote on Feb 17th, 2010 at 7:51am:

The famous Sheriff Mack 2nd Amendment case was a joke and to me a non-sequitur, "How do you preserve the right to keep and bear arms?"  "Sheriff Mack".  What?  His case only prevented the Feds from forcing the local law enforcement agencies, the county sheriff, from performing the background checks of potential gun purchasers, and put the responsibility on the Federal Fire Arms licensee, the gun dealer, which is proper.  He who receives the benefit should also bear the disadvantage.  The sheriff had not contracted with the Feds to sell firearms, so the sheriff was not under any contractual obligation to perform the background checks, but all these patriot morons pushing the "we can have our cake and eat it too" use the Sheriff Mack case as proof that they still have 2nd Amendment rights, which is another non-sequitur, "Where do your rights come from?" "The government and the constitution."  Again totally absurd.

Thanks for clearing that one up for the folks, Federal Farmer.

It be interesting to know how things were if people understood natural rights over constitutional rights.

This fellow is Neo Victorian...
As funny as He may be, this kinda stuff sucks a lot of energy out of the population.

wrote on Feb 18th, 2010 at 6:04pm:

This fellow is Neo Victorian... As funny as He may be, this kinda stuff sucks a lot of energy out of the population.

A "Neo Victorian"... What the hell is that?

Oh, whatever... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Victorian

As for sucking the life out a viable course of action, I have to agree.

Ah... I was right! "The Restore America Plan" is a front for the Copper Cards ruse.

Here it is in Clive's own words seen at : http://americangrandjury.org/madam-sarah

• Post 7:  "We have a tremendous solution! The Restore America Plan.
  This is CopperCards++ with our military’s backing."
  

One would suspect that "CopperCards++" means the original attempt failed.

And note the acronym for "The Restore America Plan" = TRAP.

Such plan is nothing but a bait and switch to get "US citizens" sucked into the scheme, i.e. a TRAP.
And, the military backing this undocumented nonsense. Right  [smiley=lol.gif]

These people who do not have a clue about the law are not my "Guardians".

Funny thing happened on the Internet....

As to Reply 16 above, I went to post the below comment on this site : http://americangrandjury.org/madam-sarah

The below comment was rejected by them.

____________


In regard to post 7:

De jure Grand Juries? Where is the legal précis for this?
Point: There is none!

Military? I am sure that is true. LOL…
This is another paytriot retread idea from Eric Madsen.

This is just a front to sell CopperCards.
Interesting that it is not mentioned on the http://www.guardiansofthefreerepublics.com
It is called bait and switch.

LB Bork wrote on Feb 24th, 2010 at 1:27pm:

Funny thing happened on the Internet.... As to Reply 16 above, I went to post the below comment on this site : http://americangrandjury.org/madam-sarah The below comment was rejected by them.

Geez, and look at all the folks getting excited about the "backing of the military" comment. It will be rather funny when the dates quoted come and go, and NOTHING has happened. Gimme a break! What a bunch of gullible idiots!

LB Bork wrote on Feb 24th, 2010 at 1:27pm:

This is just a front to sell CopperCards. Interesting that it is not mentioned on the http://www.guardiansofthefreerepublics.com It is called bait and switch.

Actually, it is mentioned here:

http://www.guardiansofthefreerepublics.com/introduction.html

Not that this changes anything. It's still a bunch of BS.

JWJones wrote on Feb 24th, 2010 at 1:58pm:

Geez, and look at all the folks getting excited about the "backing of the military" comment. It will be rather funny when the dates quoted come and go, and NOTHING has happened. Gimme a break! What a bunch of gullible idiots!

Members of the Guardians of the Free Republics may also be called upon from time to time to appear in sufficient numbers professionally to emphasize our authority as the supreme lawful de jure institutions on the land.  It is inherent upon the sovereign People to finally accept responsibility to ensure the posterity.

Now where do they think they are going to appear at and for what. I can see the paddy wagon coming.
Only one thing they are not in de jure status what a scam.

JWJones wrote on Feb 24th, 2010 at 1:58pm:

LB Bork wrote on Feb 24th, 2010 at 1:27pm: Funny thing happened on the Internet.... As to Reply 16 above, I went to post the below comment on this site : http://americangrandjury.org/madam-sarah The below comment was rejected by them. Geez, and look at all the folks getting excited about the "backing of the military" comment. It will be rather funny when the dates quoted come and go, and NOTHING has happened. Gimme a break! What a bunch of gullible idiots!

I was just thinking the same thing about the date. What will they do then?  [smiley=shrug.gif]

JWJones wrote on Feb 24th, 2010 at 2:03pm:

LB Bork wrote on Feb 24th, 2010 at 1:27pm: This is just a front to sell CopperCards. Interesting that it is not mentioned on the http://www.guardiansofthefreerepublics.com It is called bait and switch. Actually, it is mentioned here: http://www.guardiansofthefreerepublics.com/introduction.html Not that this changes anything. It's still a bunch of BS.

I see nothing about the US citizen holding CopperCard project in that reference.

Again, the writing and presentation on this site is so rank it is hard to believe anyone is falling for this.

LB Bork wrote on Feb 24th, 2010 at 2:23pm:

I see nothing about the US citizen holding CopperCard project in that reference. Again, the writing and presentation on this site is so rank it is hard to believe anyone is falling for this.

Oh, I was referring to the military thing. Sorry for the mix-up.

The tighter the noose is around our collective necks, the more the bickering will cease, one way or the other.
-source unknown

Interesting to me (and I am a bit of a novice) when your back is against the wall, courage becomes much easier.

JWJones wrote on Feb 24th, 2010 at 2:37pm:

LB Bork wrote on Feb 24th, 2010 at 2:23pm: I see nothing about the US citizen holding CopperCard project in that reference. Again, the writing and presentation on this site is so rank it is hard to believe anyone is falling for this. Oh, I was referring to the military thing. Sorry for the mix-up.

That is okay... That is a bunch of BS too. May have gotten that nonsense from Eric Madsen.
There is some report that him and one Shawn Rice met with the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Weirdness there, too.
See this post http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?num=1260248044/6#6

It appears that one Jim Palmisano leaps before he looks. Send a letter to the editor of Freedom's Phoenix.

• http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Add-Letter.htm?EdNo=001&Info=0087956
  

We need a new header called the list for these guys!

Jerry wrote on Mar 3rd, 2010 at 2:23pm:

We need a new header called the list for these guys!

Well, maybe. These guys have stolen all ideas from other researchers. I am one of the few people that have brought to light that all the "states" in the Union are republics. One would venture Clive does not even own a law dictionary.

What should it be called, Patriot Retreads, or just plain Thieves  [smiley=unsure.gif]

Patriot Retreads sounds good  [smiley=grin.gif]

This guy appears to get it.

• http://www.thegoldenthread.info/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=22106#p22106
  

Yelp... Well at least he knows that is a bunch of s^!+.

Now check this out a while back I posted something that was on the law books of south carolina.

This time it's a law on South Carolina's statute books, called the Subversive Activities Registration Act, allowing anyone wishing to seize or overthrow the government of the US to register with South Carolina's secretary of state and pay a $5 fee. And can you believe there are people out there signing this! [smiley=idiot.gif]

• http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/mar/03/south-carolina-five-dollars-fee
  

I understand that the people that are into this sent in the request for the military coup this week.

Anyone want to take a stab when the round-up of unruly subjects begins?  [smiley=hmmm.gif]

Glad that I am smarter than that  [smiley=wink.gif]

They are now on the MSM radar. I expect they will be "forcibly suppressed" soon:

• http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/04/02/governors.extremists/index.html?hpt=T2
  

JWJones wrote on Apr 4th, 2010 at 9:08am:

They are now on the MSM radar. I expect they will be "forcibly suppressed" soon: http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/04/02/governors.extremists/index.html?hpt=T2

Yes, I sent this out in an email yesterday. The thing is, they say they are following the Constitution but are ignoring the fact of where the problem really exists or stems from, the federal government. They are idiots.

Greetings:

I believe they are achieving just what they want: To show that select people are “anti-government” via media and gathering names of dissenters. The purpose of this is to get people out of the way and illustrate to the “public” that there are people out there who are trouble.

This also allows them to stay on course of their program that has been in place for hundreds of years.*

Sadly, this is from a friend that is doing investigation on these people:

• “WHAT WAS NOT TOLD TO THE INNOCENT JURIES IS THEIR NAMES,
  SIGNATURES AND PRINTS WERE HANDED OVER.”
  

Another close friend of mine has surmised that Kennedy is a spook and Boustred, being an egomaniacal psychopath, is being used to assist in the name gathering.*

Observing modus operandi, I had come to this conclusion some time ago about Kennedy… He dances around the truth and has people doing numerous things in law that are not proper.

You have seen this, have you not : http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?num=1265923540

The thing is, in the correct manner PAC has been making the governments aware of these issues for over ten years now; not by any preconceived threat.

The thing is, Kennedy, Turner (another suspected operative), and Boustred do not know the law… There is much more to this. It is too bad their victims do not know law either.

All we can do at this point is attempt to get people further directed on the right path.

Best regards, LB Bork
www.pacinlaw.us
www.notmygovernment.us
___________

Sent to me by another friend:

*...more likely just agent provocatuers whose job it is to get things moving.  I've read many articles over the years in publications such as RAMPARTS and FOREIGN AFFAIRS JOURNAL, that show the intergenerational Narcissistic sociopathic psychopaths that pose as the "high priests" of modern society have planned for civil unrest and massive rioting for the next two or three decades.  That is the reason that the police have been militarized.  And why would anyone expect that the liars, murderers, and thieves that are in power now would willingly give up their power because of some law.  Their laws are to control us, not for them to obey.  The TRAP acronym is no accident.  It is a personality trait of psychopaths that they love to disrespect their victims and show what fools they all are.  By the way, I use words such as "psychopath" for their clinical value, not as insults.

Just read the writings of Bertrand Russell, Jacques Attali, George Bernard Shaw (not his fiction or plays),
Edward Bernays, T.R. Malthus, Carroll Quigley. the creeps at the Club of Rome, and other psychopaths of their ilk, and you'll see that theirs is a plan of Eugenics and massive population reduction.  Everything that they and their modern counterparts in government and NGOs do is toward those ends.

Regards,
Peter

See the "Guardians" entertaining (in a word) "Declaration" in this thread below :

• http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?num=1270405203
  

From GodLikeProductions thread: "I also read where this coppercard guy by the name of Clive is involved in this. If this guy is anywhere near the top of this, I am suspect. This Clive guy is a train wreck of embarrassment and looney toons."

[smiley=lol.gif]

• http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1029116/pg44
  

I tell you there will be a lot of heads rolling when or if they ever figure out that those scum bags are pulling the wool over their eyes. Yes there are two systems at work here but what they don't realize is they are political involved in this de fecto system and these fools are telling them to look at the other system which is the true system that was in place at the beginning before the 14th Amendment common law and applying those laws while they are still in this political system. [smiley=getaway.gif] [smiley=idiot.gif]'s   

Jivin' Clive Boustred responds to a Mother Jones online article regarding
the Guardians, by posting in the blog several times here:

• http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/04/guardians-free-republics-astroturf-clive-boustred-militia-government-patriot-threat-exposed

He writes a lot better than he sounds on audio/video. He's not "behind" or "at the top" of the "Guardians",
he simply supports them, and donated his web expertise.

RGA of Gbro

There is also a link to a Ron Paul blog-site in the article, with some interesting banter. Ross

wrote on Apr 6th, 2010 at 10:05pm:

Jivin' Clive Boustred responds to a Mother Jones online article regarding the Guardians, by posting in the blog several times here: http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/04/guardians-free-republics-astroturf-clive-boustred-militia-government-patriot-threat-exposed He writes a lot better than he sounds on audio/video.  He's not "behind" or "at the top" of the "Guardians", he simply supports them, and donated his web expertise. RGAof Gbro

Interesting that Melinda has an article about Clive mentioned as being positive.
Three years later, she has now gotten to know him and now has nothing good to say about the man.

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Feature-Article.htm?Info=0032799

And "Web Expertise"? Yes, the sites he has are just wonderful  [smiley=huh.gif]

Larry sent this to me a few days ago. I have to agree on the 1099-OIDs.
As I have been saying, Kennedy (and Turner) do every patriot nut job thing under the sun.
And I seen the operations of law enforcement, and agree... Smells like something stinks in the state of the US.


From: Larry Becraft [mailto:becraft@hiwaay.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:58 AM
To: LB Bork
Subject: Re: April's Fool

Kennedy claims to be a "man of God." But what spooked me was when he started talking "law" and it was all patriot myths. He got that old "redemption process" started all over again, dressed up with 1099-OIDs. That has gotten lots of people into trouble. People have been sued by the feds, search warrants executed, and several convicted. His legal arguments are baseless, which only supports and helps the govt.

Cryer and I wondered who he was when we first heard about him. Now, we know that Kennedy is not his real name. I am very weary of somebody in the movement who does not use his real name.

In my opinion, this has too much of a look and feel of a law enforcement operation.

Larry

I wonder if the guardians have taken the summer off!

Their original plan was to notify the governors and everyone was to sit back and wait until mid-May. Well, it's mid-August and I don't see the military onboard or the guardians in control of any state.

Could this have been a ruse all along?  [smiley=hypnotized.gif]

You can fool all US citizens some of the time, you can fool some US citizens all of the time, but you can't fool Don!

This was not a 2nd Amendment case.  It was a 10th Amendment case.


Federal Farmer wrote on Feb 17th, 2010 at 7:51am:

The famous Sheriff Mack 2nd Amendment case was a joke and to me a non-sequitur, "How do you preserve the right to keep and bear arms?"  "Sheriff Mack".  What?  His case only prevented the Feds from forcing the local law enforcement agencies, the county sheriff, from performing the background checks of potential gun purchasers, and put the responsibility on the Federal Fire Arms licensee, the gun dealer, which is proper.  He who receives the benefit should also bear the disadvantage.  The sheriff had not contracted with the Feds to sell firearms, so the sheriff was not under any contractual obligation to perform the background checks, but all these patriot morons pushing the "we can have our cake and eat it too" use the Sheriff Mack case as proof that they still have 2nd Amendment rights, which is another non-sequitur, "Where do your rights come from?" "The government and the constitution."  Again totally absurd.

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