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[quote author=5D50465C505F310 link=1295678109/6#6 date=1317270205][size=14]From a transcript of a Kurt Kallenbach call... [/size] [list]http://libertyandfreedomradio.net/archive/iatp_20110913.mp3 9:05 minute Kurt: the 14th amendment is irrelevant. Why? It is a private corporate act and has nothing to do with government. It has nothing to do with the constitution. The corporation charter that the 1871 company put in place (includes) the 14th amendment, which is a private corporate act and has nothing to do with government and nothing to do with the constitution. To say it’s ‘not my government’ or the 14th amendment is an issue is not true. The 14th amendment is for a private company and is private company policy no different that McDonald’s or Walmart. There is nothing about Walmart that has anything to do with our lives. Theirs is nothing about McDonald’s in their private corporate policy that has anything to do with our lives. Nothing about the 14th amendment has anything to do with our lives. The fact that there is a presumption that it does, does not make it do. It doesn’t make it true. All that garbage being talked about the 14th amendment, the UCC, all that crap is all irrelevant. It’s worse than that—it’s fruit of the poison tree. If we attacked the tree itself, we would get rid of all those symptoms like the 14th amendment, the UCC. What is that poisonous tree? It’s called the UNITED STATES. All these so-called patriot organizations and guys that have their processes and all that crap---they are all irrelevant. They need to go away. They are the ones that are perpetuating the myth. They are perpetuating the problem if we turned our backs and walked away from the UNITED STATES, no longer recognized it and revoked any participation and walked away, they would no longer have this so-called granted authority over the American people. They would shrivel and die from nonparticipation. When I say withdraw consent, I am not talking about turning in paperwork, I’m saying that we need to no longer consent to this private system. we need to do it through our acts. When I have to listen to all this garbage out there and see my name negatively put forward through Republic Broadcasting, and I can’t believe that John Stadtmiller would even allow LB Bork to speak….he is not telling the truth. I think John Stadtmiller should be held accountable for everything that comes out of Bork’s mouth when Bork speaks for RBN.[/list]Wow... "To say it’s ‘not my government’ or the 14th amendment is an issue is not true." Kallenbach says that saying it is not my government is not an issue; but yet Kallenbach says not to consent. Not consent to what? Later, the guest, Big Al says he cancelled his voter registration; but yet he still gets a benefit check from the noted "private company". He must be a member through his "acts". Right? Moreover, Big Al says he cancelled his voter registration (see call). He must of thought that it was his government... He was voting, right? But yet it is irrelevant? So, it is your government, Kurt? He does not even know what the nature of the statement "Not My Government" means. Further, there sure is a lot of case law on the 14th Amendment for it not to be an issue. And really? A private corporation due to an "Act" of 1871? Really? The Constitution, which established a corporation, acts merely off acts too? This Act of 1871 is some the patriot mythology that is going around. Half truths. To put it another way, which came first, the chicken or the egg? The mere citizenship of the 14th Amendment itself is the encompassing factor that makes one a subject of congressional acts through private law, [i]i.e.[/i], everything that petains to the extension of territorial jurisdiction of the United States is predicated on the 14th Amendment... Kallenbach is playing down the 14th Amendment for some reason.* Lots of holes here... Just more idiocy from people who cannot think because they are ticked-off and hypocrites. Oh, and to illustrate how big of plagiarizer Kurt Kallenbach it, this is from the Not My Government site of which had been put up 3 years ago... About a year before Kallenbach had "shown up"... [list]"To further illustrate this concept of non-participation, we see bratty children sustaining their bratty ways if they are given attention. When you stop paying attention to them, such measures gets their attention and the problem of this bad behavior tends to go away. In the same respect, not paying attention to the politicians of the current illegitimate system would provide the same results. Imagine their attitudes if you ignored them by not giving them their power by voting for them."[/list]See it here, at http://www.notmygovernment.us/answers One question: The United States gave birth to a lot of states post 14th Amendment, including the "State" where Kallenbach lives. I guess succession of title means nothing to these Patriotards. Big Al goes on and on about this and that in regard to how the Vatican "owns" everything. Please, the Evidence? I have seen nothing from what this guy talks about. He actually admitted to me one time that Americans are not really "British Subjects" like he goes around saying; and also admitted the United States is sovereign and there are treaty ties that actually make-up such fallacy. If you want the real researchers of the tied to the "America" and the Vatican, go to the real reseachers of the material, Eric Jon Phelps and Tupper Saussy (both of who I had known and had communications with). Like I said, Kallanbach lifted the information from PAC is using it as his own. The worst part is, he is filtering in BS with it. As for Big Al, or whatever his name is (can't say or his benefit checks would stop coming, [i]i.e.[/i], cannot bite the hand that feeds you), funny he has to get spotlight from people that are dishonorable and bandits. And aside that, Big Al has said to me many times [i]"there needs to be a bloody revolution"[/i]. Sounds like these two are going for just that. Perhaps that is their mission. Hey, just a thought. As known, PAC is about proper education, remedy, and baby-steps backwards. Yup... Kallenbach is one good reason for Island Makers Project. Just more idiocy from people who cannot think because they are ticked-off and hypocrites.... Or perhaps, I smell a "disinformation / distraction operation" ... Remember, I called Tim Turner. [hr] [b][size=14]Hey, Kurt, Bill has a message for you...[/size][/b] [img]http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/images/red_clinton_s.jpg[/img] [b]Some say that the 14th Amendment does not matter? What's all this then?[/b] [smiley=smack.gif] [list][*]The 14th Amendment Use and Analysis : http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt14toc_user.html [smiley=what.gif] [i]That is a lot of stuff for not meaning anything![/i][/list][list][*]UNITED STATES v. CRUIKSHANK, 92 U.S. 542 (1875). The citizen cannot complain, because he has voluntarily submitted himself to such a form of government.... he owes allegiance to the two departments ([i]i.e.[/i] the 14th Amendment's dual citizenship), so to speak, and within their respective spheres[i] must pay the penalties[/i]. [smiley=hmmm.gif] [i]What penalties are they talking about?[/i][/list][list][*]NORDYKE v. KING, 563 F. 3d 439 - Court of Appeals, 9th Circuit (2009). This necessary “right of the people” existed before the Second Amendment as “one of the fundamental rights of Englishmen.” Heller identified several reasons why the militia was considered “necessary to the security of a free state.” First, “it is useful in repelling invasions and suppressing insurrections. Second, it renders large standing armies unnecessary... Third, when the able-bodied men of a nation are trained in arms and organized, they are better able to resist tyranny.” In addition to these civic purposes, Heller characterized the right to keep and bear arms as a corollary to the individual right of self-defense. (“[T]he inherent right of self-defense has been central to the Second Amendment right.”). Thus the right contains both a political component—it is a means to protect the public from tyranny—and a personal component—it is a means to protect the individual from threats to life or limb. We must trace this right, as thus described, through our history from the Founding... [i]Until the enactment of the Fourteenth Amendment.[/i] [smiley=noway.gif] [i]What did that say![/i][/list][hr] [color=#330099][b]People's Awareness Coalition : [i]Separating the Wheat from the Chaff since 1998.[/b][/i] [/color][/quote]
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